OH MAN ITS SO SAD CAUSE THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO YOU THINK ARE LIKE YOUR FAM, YOUR BROTHERS OR WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT. THEY PAT YOU ON YOUR BACK, TELL YOU HOW MUCH THEY'RE HAPPY FOR YOU. THEN SOON AS SHIT STARTS TO POP OFF ON YOUR END WITH JOBS AND OPPORTUNITIES OR JUST BEING SUCCESSFULL, HERE COMES THE HATE FROM THE SAME PEOPLE WHO YOU THOUGHT WAS YOUR FAM. AND, ITS FUNNY 'CUZ THEY DO IT IN SUCH A WAY LIKE YOUR THE STUPID ONE OR SOMETHING, THEY DONT EVEN LET YOU GET YOUR FOOT IN THE DOOR YET TO HOOK THEM UP BEFORE THEY START BAD MOUTHING YOU. WHETHER ITS TO SOMEONE ELSE IN THE CREW OR WHO EVER. ITS FOUL, I DONT UNDERSTAND IT CUZ IVE NEVER HATED ON ANYONE YOU KNOW? THERES PLENTY OF LOVE ON THIS PLANET FOR EVERYONE, PEOPLE JUST GOTTA WAIT THERE TURN TO GET BLESSED. SO IVE LEARN TO JUST DO ME, AND ONLY LOOK OUT FOR THOSE WHO LOOK OUT FOR ME. JUST KEEP IT MOVIN CAUSE LIFE'S TO SHORT AND NO MATTER WHAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO HATE ON YOU REGUARDLESS. THIS I'VE LEARNED ALONG THE WAY.
Truth be told, we now live in a lifestyle of surveillence and a police state that has file cabinets and libraries documenting every tag taken everywhere in the streets and the trains of NYC presently and from the past. In 2001, when I was arrested in court by the Vandal Squad and driven up to the Bronx to be re arrested for a separate case, the whole ride up they where bragging about all the albums of photos, personal videos, the revs footage they confiscated during their home raids, at one point even offering me the REVS footage for $2k, then telling me "just wait till I retire, you'll see some amazing stuff pop up on Ebay". Now I know you went thru the ringer and had everything from your son's computer to your Tyson fight tapes taken as so called "evidence", how do you feel about the practices and privelages these officers are given and do feel they're doing their job or taking advantage of powers offered to them?
THE SHITS REALLY FOUL, BUT WE JUST GOTTA FIGHT SOME HOW. WHEN I GOT MY HOUSE RAIDED AND THEY TOOK A LOT OF STUFF I GOT AROUND 95% OF IT BACK. THERE'S REALLY NOTHING YOU CAN DO BUT TRY TO REPLACE IT. TRY NOT TO STRESS IT AS LONG AS YOUR FREE AND NOT IN PRISON. BUT THESE ACTIONS JUST SHOWS THE PEOPLE HOW FOUL AND CORRUPT THE N.Y.P.D ARE AND IT WILL COST YOU GEE MONEY TO FIGHT IT. SOMETIMES YOU JUST WANT TO MOVE ON AND NOT DEAL WITH IT. ITS SUCH A HEADACHE!! I GUESS WE JUST GOTTA BE SMARTER WITH OUR THINGS, FEEL ME!!


So you've done major deals with ProKeds, got vinyl figures releasing soon, Gallery shows all over, what's in the works for you right now?
WOW BRO, A BUNCH OF STUFF, I DONT WANT TO TALK TOO MUCH, CUZ PEOPLE START HATIN AND THINK THAT IM BRAGGING BUT I'LL GIVE A LIL INFO AND NOT SPEAK ON SOME OTHER THINGS I GUESS SINCE YOU ALREADY MENTIONED. I JUST COMPLETED A MAJOR DEAL WITH ADIDAS FOR FOOTLOCKER. FIRST TO BE SOLD EXCLISIVELY TO EUROPE, FOLLOWED BY THE STATES. THIS SHIT IS HOT!!! PEOPLE ARE GOING TO REALLY HATE ON ME WITH THAT SHIT. ALSO WORKING ON A NEW BOOK , A BUNCH OF SOLO ART SHOWS IN EUROPE AS WELL AS IN THE STATES. JUST DOING MY THING, BEING COPE2 , REPPIN' TO THE FULLEST.
I know your dead set on continuing to do things the way you do after all these years but you gotta feel in some way looking around the streets of NY and say "Damn, look at all these toys with no respect for their history, not even attempting to make their handstyles or fills look proper anymore". It's easy to conclude that the scene is dead right now. I happen the think there is still a scene, but the scene that is alive is an "invisible" scene in that people do their thing, document it and don't promote it like they may have in the past. I know I see people from other cities passing judgement on what NYC is, based on what they see on websites. When the scene I see walking the streets is totally different. Do you find this to be true now days?
YEAH BIG TIME, I GUESS A LOT OF THE TRUE BOMBERS ARE JUST DOING THEIR THING REGARDLESS, AND SOME OF THE SMART ONES ARE JUST LAYING LOW CAUSE OF THE LAW. IT'S TOO SHADY AND SOMETIMES YOU DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH THE HEADACHES. THERES ALOT OF NEW TOYS WITH BUSTED SHIT OUT THERE, IT'S STILL GOOD CAUSE THERE KEEPING THE GRAFF ALIVE. ITS A WAR SOMETIMES AND PEOPLE WILL SAY WHATEVER THEY WANT ABOUT NEW YORK, WE'RE THE MOTHERLAND, THE MECCA OF THIS ART FORM AND PERSONALLY I HAVE NOTHING TO PROVE TO ANYONE. I'M GOING TO ALWAYS DO MY THING REGARDLESS, WHICH IS STAY REAL AT ALL TIMES, NY AND WORLDWIDE!!


You obviously are part of the SCIFEN FAMILY by direct contact of me. We take pride in being a REAL Hip Hop brand run by REAL active people in the Hip Hop scene. Over these past few years a lot of people we looked up to are starting to understand what we represent, where we're coming from, and what we are trying to get across. What do you think about SCIFEN and if you had any opinions about what we as a company could do to either teach people something, or give back in some ways and we were finacially able to do so, what do you think SCIFEN could do to contribute to the awareness of people. Remember I said financially able, haha...
I GUESS SCIFEN GOT THEIR SHIT ON POINT FROM WHAT I SEE, I LOVE THEIR WHOLE CONCEPT ON THINGS, REALLY OFFICIA L AND I WISH THEM MORE SUCSESS. I GUESS JUST TRY TO SPONSER SOME GRAFF EVENTS. THAT WOULD BE COOL, LIKE SOME SHOWS OR JAMS. THAT WOULD BE REALLY HOT ON THEIR PART. OTHER THAN THAT DO YOUR THING AND RULE THE PLANET. OH, AND DONT FORGET TO KEEP SENDING ME THAT EXCLUSIVE GEAR!! LOL
Lastly, this is your chance to speak on anything YOU would like to address, feel free to speak on anything bro.
YO, THANKS TO SCIFEN FOR THE LOVE AND RESPECT. THATS WHAT ITS ALL ABOUT, NOT HATING ON EACH OTHER. COPE2 BABY, THE BRONX GRAFFITI TRUE KING OF KINGS, THE TRUE LEGEND!! CHECK OUT MY SITE WWW.COPE2KINGSDESTROY.COM. PEACE TO EWOKONE ON THE INTERVIEW AND SCIFEN FOR THE SHINE!!